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[NCF]

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[go pak go]

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I'm trying to figure out if this is actually that cool or if it's just math.

16 NFC Teams. 2 of them always meet in the Title Game.

So you have a 1 in 8 chance of any team meeting in the NFC Title game. And 5 have almost always made which is 62.5% of the population of 8.

Basically you have 2 teams consistently dominating 3 of the divisions and the South is a wildcard.

[YoHoChecko]

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I'm trying to figure out if this is actually that cool or if it's just math.

16 NFC Teams. 2 of them always meet in the Title Game.

So you have a 1 in 8 chance of any team meeting in the NFC Title game. And 5 have almost always made which is 62.5% of the population of 8.

Basically you have 2 teams consistently dominating 3 of the divisions and the South is a wildcard.

woof, haven't thought about n choose r in ages

[Yoop]

https://www.instagram.com/share/_mse-kE9C

I'm trying to figure out if this is actually that cool or if it's just math.

16 NFC Teams. 2 of them always meet in the Title Game.

So you have a 1 in 8 chance of any team meeting in the NFC Title game. And 5 have almost always made which is 62.5% of the population of 8.

Basically you have 2 teams consistently dominating 3 of the divisions and the South is a wildcard.

It's such an accomplishment for us to do it 6 times since 1995 when half of those seasons we had poor defense and ST's units, our offenses carried the team most seasons

[NCF]

https://www.instagram.com/share/_mse-kE9C

I'm trying to figure out if this is actually that cool or if it's just math.

16 NFC Teams. 2 of them always meet in the Title Game.

So you have a 1 in 8 chance of any team meeting in the NFC Title game. And 5 have almost always made which is 62.5% of the population of 8.

Basically you have 2 teams consistently dominating 3 of the divisions and the South is a wildcard.

woof, haven't thought about n choose r in ages

Nor do I remember how. What are the odds it happens versus the odds it does not happen (I am not even sure those odds add up to 100%... I kind of think they don't, right?)? As gpg said, I am not terribly surprised it has happened that often, but I am somehow surprised that there are only 5 times it has not happened. That's mind boggling.

[go pak go]

I'm trying to figure out if this is actually that cool or if it's just math.

16 NFC Teams. 2 of them always meet in the Title Game.

So you have a 1 in 8 chance of any team meeting in the NFC Title game. And 5 have almost always made which is 62.5% of the population of 8.

Basically you have 2 teams consistently dominating 3 of the divisions and the South is a wildcard.

woof, haven't thought about n choose r in ages

Nor do I remember how. What are the odds it happens versus the odds it does not happen (I am not even sure those odds add up to 100%... I kind of think they don't, right?)? As gpg said, I am not terribly surprised it has happened that often, but I am somehow surprised that there are only 5 times it has not happened. That's mind boggling.

Personally I think the AFC is still more striking.

Since 2000 the AFC Championship has been represented by at least one of the following every year for the exception one time: (The only exception was 2002 of Oak vs TEN)

1. Tom Brady
2. Peyton Manning
3. Ben Rothlesburger
4. Patrick Mahomes
5. Ravens Defense

And 12 times both teams (half the time) were represented by the above. The only reason the scope of players had to be expanded or both teams weren't involved was literally due to the player not being in the conference/retired.

[go pak go]

https://www.instagram.com/share/_mse-kE9C

I'm trying to figure out if this is actually that cool or if it's just math.

16 NFC Teams. 2 of them always meet in the Title Game.

So you have a 1 in 8 chance of any team meeting in the NFC Title game. And 5 have almost always made which is 62.5% of the population of 8.

Basically you have 2 teams consistently dominating 3 of the divisions and the South is a wildcard.

It's such an accomplishment for us to do it 6 times since 1995 when half of those seasons we had poor defense and ST's units, our offenses carried the team most seasons

I think 2016 is really the only season I could mark up where the offense truly carried the team to a title game. Every other appearance was supported by a pretty good defense. Our playoff advanced years weren't an accident.

[lupedafiasco]

I'm trying to figure out if this is actually that cool or if it's just math.

16 NFC Teams. 2 of them always meet in the Title Game.

So you have a 1 in 8 chance of any team meeting in the NFC Title game. And 5 have almost always made which is 62.5% of the population of 8.

Basically you have 2 teams consistently dominating 3 of the divisions and the South is a wildcard.

It's such an accomplishment for us to do it 6 times since 1995 when half of those seasons we had poor defense and ST's units, our offenses carried the team most seasons

I think 2016 is really the only season I could mark up where the offense truly carried the team to a title game. Every other appearance was supported by a pretty good defense. Our playoff advanced years weren't an accident.

2011 was a really bad defense. Sure they got a lot of turnovers but they couldn’t stop anyone from scoring a TD if we didn’t force a turnover.

The 2014 team is usually talked about as having a good defense but their ability to stop the run was atrocious. It was embarrassing and borderline inexcusable to go into that season with such poor talent at ILB. Thank god we had Clay Matthews to move inside and play average level ILB.

[go pak go]

It's such an accomplishment for us to do it 6 times since 1995 when half of those seasons we had poor defense and ST's units, our offenses carried the team most seasons

I think 2016 is really the only season I could mark up where the offense truly carried the team to a title game. Every other appearance was supported by a pretty good defense. Our playoff advanced years weren't an accident.

2011 was a really bad defense. Sure they got a lot of turnovers but they couldn’t stop anyone from scoring a TD if we didn’t force a turnover.

The 2014 team is usually talked about as having a good defense but their ability to stop the run was atrocious. It was embarrassing and borderline inexcusable to go into that season with such poor talent at ILB. Thank god we had Clay Matthews to move inside and play average level ILB.

We didn't go to the Title game in 2011.

[Yoop]

I'm trying to figure out if this is actually that cool or if it's just math.

16 NFC Teams. 2 of them always meet in the Title Game.

So you have a 1 in 8 chance of any team meeting in the NFC Title game. And 5 have almost always made which is 62.5% of the population of 8.

Basically you have 2 teams consistently dominating 3 of the divisions and the South is a wildcard.

It's such an accomplishment for us to do it 6 times since 1995 when half of those seasons we had poor defense and ST's units, our offenses carried the team most seasons

I think 2016 is really the only season I could mark up where the offense truly carried the team to a title game. Every other appearance was supported by a pretty good defense. Our playoff advanced years weren't an accident.

OK, but they weren't great defenses, maybe 2014 was Ya need a good defense, doesn't have to be great, as long as you have a offense that can score points, this goes back to defense wins championships, and that is rarely ever true imho.

[go pak go]

It's such an accomplishment for us to do it 6 times since 1995 when half of those seasons we had poor defense and ST's units, our offenses carried the team most seasons

I think 2016 is really the only season I could mark up where the offense truly carried the team to a title game. Every other appearance was supported by a pretty good defense. Our playoff advanced years weren't an accident.

OK, but they weren't great defenses, maybe 2014 was Ya need a good defense, doesn't have to be great, as long as you have a offense that can score points, this goes back to defense wins championships, and that is rarely ever true imho.

1995 - Great defense
1996 - Great defense
1997 - Great defense
2007 - good defense
2010 - Great defense
2014 - Great defense 2nd half of year
2016 - Poor defense
2020 - good defense

I would say every time we made the title game as you suggested since 1995 we did it on the backs of a great defense supplemented with a great offense for the exception of 2016. But the trick to advance to final four was always dependent on us having a good to great defense.

The Packers story since Favre is a consistent offense that generally led to a Top 6/Top 4 team in the conference each year and the years our defense was elevated it lifted the Packers to a top 2 team in the conference. For the excpetion of 2016 when we overshot our range.

Seasons where we underperformed with an above average defense was 1998, 2003, 2021.

[Papa John]

The 2014 team is usually talked about as having a good defense but their ability to stop the run was atrocious. It was embarrassing and borderline inexcusable to go into that season with such poor talent at ILB. Thank god we had Clay Matthews to move inside and play average level ILB.

For that defense to implode the way that it did when this organization and fan base needed it the most, it NEVER was an elite defense. And don't get me started on Clay at ILB. I was at the 2015 AZ playoff game when we let Fitzgerald run wide open in OT. Makes me sick to think about the consecutive years that the ILB position was NEGLECTED. 30 years of HOF QB play. 2 Championships. Inexcusable.

[Labrev]

2020 defense was not good, IMO. They started out well but fell way off.

2014 defense was not elite, but it was more than good enough to win with.

It is wild to me that there are people who blame the defense for the Seattle loss. They forced FIVE turnovers that game!!

When we are at the point at which you need your defense to bail you out even more than that, your offense is absolutely blowing it.

What more are they supposed to do, score? I mean, that may have been how Rodgers won in 2010, thanks to a fluky pick by a DT off of a QB2 (without which, he would be ringless).

But generally speaking, that is not how football works. Sure, D and ST can and do score from time to time, but it's the O's job above all.

[lupedafiasco]

When we are at the point at which you need your defense to bail you out even more than that, your offense is absolutely blowing it.

I do expect this from you.

The 2014 loss is solely on the hands of the STs and the defense. The Seahawks Legion of Boom is one of the greatest defenses the league has ever seen in an era where the offense has all the advantages. The offense did what it was supposed to do considering one of the interceptions was a missed offsides by the refs.

Meanwhile the STs gave up a fake FG for a TD when it was obvious to anyone who played a game of Madden that 3 points wasn’t going to help the Seahawks at all. Then they blow the onside kick.

But the defense just needed to get a stop. Instead they not only give up a lead but they allow the 2 or conversion to make it a 3 point game. Then don’t even give the offense a chance in OT.

But I’m assuming you forget Rodgers took the offense down the field to tie the game with less than a minute to force OT right?

[Yoop]

When we are at the point at which you need your defense to bail you out even more than that, your offense is absolutely blowing it.

I do expect this from you.

The 2014 loss is solely on the hands of the STs and the defense. The Seahawks Legion of Boom is one of the greatest defenses the league has ever seen in an era where the offense has all the advantages. The offense did what it was supposed to do considering one of the interceptions was a missed offsides by the refs.

Meanwhile the STs gave up a fake FG for a TD when it was obvious to anyone who played a game of Madden that 3 points wasn’t going to help the Seahawks at all. Then they blow the onside kick.

But the defense just needed to get a stop. Instead they not only give up a lead but they allow the 2 or conversion to make it a 3 point game. Then don’t even give the offense a chance in OT.

But I’m assuming you forget Rodgers took the offense down the field to tie the game with less than a minute to force OT right?

well done, our defense or ST has led to our disappointing PO losses just about every time, either they can't hold off the other offense or they make bone headed mistakes, same with ST's, yet people here blame Rodgers and the offense, mind boggling.

[Labrev]

When we are at the point at which you need your defense to bail you out even more than that, your offense is absolutely blowing it.

I do expect this from you.

The 2014 loss is solely on the hands of the STs and the defense. The Seahawks Legion of Boom is one of the greatest defenses the league has ever seen in an era where the offense has all the advantages. The offense did what it was supposed to do considering one of the interceptions was a missed offsides by the refs.

Meanwhile the STs gave up a fake FG for a TD when it was obvious to anyone who played a game of Madden that 3 points wasn’t going to help the Seahawks at all. Then they blow the onside kick.

But the defense just needed to get a stop. Instead they not only give up a lead but they allow the 2 or conversion to make it a 3 point game. Then don’t even give the offense a chance in OT.

But I’m assuming you forget Rodgers took the offense down the field to tie the game with less than a minute to force OT right?

Oh wow, after no TDs in Q2-4, it only took FIVE turnovers from the defense to get Rodgers to tie the game at 22!!

Aaron Rodgers. He's so good, he needs 3 ProBowl WRs and his defense to force nine turnovers to win playoff games.

[Labrev]

Sorry, there is no rational argument that a defense that forced five turnovers didn't do enough. None. But by all means, make yourself look ridiculous.

Bears got to a Superbowl with less from their elite deffense and Grossman at QB. If you excuse Rodgers over a defense that forced five turnovers, you're a tool.

"You're not objective about Rodgers!!" said the people who never found fault with him once—not one a single time—in his 20 year career. Holy projection Batman.

[lupedafiasco]

Sorry, there is no rational argument that a defense that forced five turnovers didn't do enough. None. But by all means, make yourself look ridiculous.

Bears got to a Superbowl with less from their offense and Grossman at QB.

Again. The defense did what they were supposed to do. The offense, against one of the top 10 ever assembled defenses, did what it was supposed to do.

The true blame lies at the feet of the STs for that loss but when it came time for our defense to get a stop when it mattered they give up 2 TDs and a 2 pt conversion.

But for whatever reason you have some strange vendetta against Rodgers. There isn’t any shred of objectivity when it comes to you and Rodgers which is why you have no credibility on the matter.

[Labrev]

But for whatever reason you have some strange vendetta against Rodgers. There isn’t any shred of objectivity when it comes to you and Rodgers which is why you have no credibility on the matter.

1. You're not objective about Rodgers. It is impossible for you to find fault with him, ever, at all.
2. You do that with Gute and whoever else you dislike, so who are you to judge? Your criticisms tend to be way more nonsensical too.

[Yoop]

But for whatever reason you have some strange vendetta against Rodgers. There isn’t any shred of objectivity when it comes to you and Rodgers which is why you have no credibility on the matter.

1. You're not objective about Rodgers. It is impossible for you to find fault with him, ever, at all.
2. You do that with Gute and whoever else you dislike, so who are you to judge? Your criticisms tend to be way more nonsensical too.

Lupe nailed it, one side blames offense and Rodgers, the other a poor job of finishing by defense, and we all saw $%&# or whatever that TE's name was jump in front of Nelson and blow the game.

and your the one who refuses to accept that reality, and quit calling people your childish names simply because they refuse to listen to your quackery about one of the best QB's this team ever had, and no one ever said he was perfect or did no wrong, your reaching now