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How much are you willing to pay a RT? to me Belton is insurance against not over paying Tom to be a RT.
he may beat out Rhyan, to start this year at RG, but if we can't come to a contract agreement with Tom, could be our future RT
We'll pay either Tom or Walker. Tom is only a RT because that's the spot that opened up first. If we pay Tom and not Walker (as we should, since Tom is the better player), we might even move him back to the left side where he played in college and where his skillset makes sense. But that's speculation and wishcasting. I have thought he belonged there from the start.
Belton is RT insurance, but not "Zach Tom" insurance. Unless the team is just truly committed to being bigger across the board in which case they keep Walker; but that would surprise me.
How much are you willing to pay a RT? to me Belton is insurance against not over paying Tom to be a RT.
he may beat out Rhyan, to start this year at RG, but if we can't come to a contract agreement with Tom, could be our future RT
We'll pay either Tom or Walker. Tom is only a RT because that's the spot that opened up first. If we pay Tom and not Walker (as we should, since Tom is the better player), we might even move him back to the left side where he played in college and where his skillset makes sense. But that's speculation and wishcasting. I have thought he belonged there from the start.
Belton is RT insurance, but not "Zach Tom" insurance. Unless the team is just truly committed to being bigger across the board in which case they keep Walker; but that would surprise me.
I still wouldn't rule out a move to center for Tom. No guarantee Elgton's back after this season or 2026.
How much are you willing to pay a RT? to me Belton is insurance against not over paying Tom to be a RT.
he may beat out Rhyan, to start this year at RG, but if we can't come to a contract agreement with Tom, could be our future RT
We'll pay either Tom or Walker. Tom is only a RT because that's the spot that opened up first. If we pay Tom and not Walker (as we should, since Tom is the better player), we might even move him back to the left side where he played in college and where his skillset makes sense. But that's speculation and wishcasting. I have thought he belonged there from the start.
Belton is RT insurance, but not "Zach Tom" insurance. Unless the team is just truly committed to being bigger across the board in which case they keep Walker; but that would surprise me.
I still wouldn't rule out a move to center for Tom. No guarantee Elgton's back after this season or 2026.
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I have said it once. I have said it again. I will say it 1,000 times.
Moving your best OL to the least valuable OL position makes the least sense. That just doesn't track. Why would they take a high level OT and play him at a position that gets paid half as much and gets cast aside in free agency routinely and gets drafted much later consistently. It's the worst idea I've ever heard all stemming from one press conference when the GM said he could be a pro bowl C three years ago.
How much are you willing to pay a RT? to me Belton is insurance against not over paying Tom to be a RT.
he may beat out Rhyan, to start this year at RG, but if we can't come to a contract agreement with Tom, could be our future RT
We'll pay either Tom or Walker. Tom is only a RT because that's the spot that opened up first. If we pay Tom and not Walker (as we should, since Tom is the better player), we might even move him back to the left side where he played in college and where his skillset makes sense. But that's speculation and wishcasting. I have thought he belonged there from the start.
Belton is RT insurance, but not "Zach Tom" insurance. Unless the team is just truly committed to being bigger across the board in which case they keep Walker; but that would surprise me.
I thought we would move Tom last year, but WAlker played well in 2023, now Tom has played RT for 3 seasons, ya have to question his transition to the left side, some have trouble switching over.
we just brought in a 20 mil guard, with Jenkins at 17 mil. reports are Tom is asking for appro 25 mil, this line is getting expensive
We'll pay either Tom or Walker. Tom is only a RT because that's the spot that opened up first. If we pay Tom and not Walker (as we should, since Tom is the better player), we might even move him back to the left side where he played in college and where his skillset makes sense. But that's speculation and wishcasting. I have thought he belonged there from the start.
Belton is RT insurance, but not "Zach Tom" insurance. Unless the team is just truly committed to being bigger across the board in which case they keep Walker; but that would surprise me.
I still wouldn't rule out a move to center for Tom. No guarantee Elgton's back after this season or 2026.
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I have said it once. I have said it again. I will say it 1,000 times.
Moving your best OL to the least valuable OL position makes the least sense. That just doesn't track. Why would they take a high level OT and play him at a position that gets paid half as much and gets cast aside in free agency routinely and gets drafted much later consistently. It's the worst idea I've ever heard all stemming from one press conference when the GM said he could be a pro bowl C three years ago.
I tend to agree with you. Not as insistent nor as vocal, but it does make sense.
However....
We've seen goofier things when rosters come together and it wouldn't surprise me to see Tom, sooner or later, go inside...especially if Belton and Jordan fulfill their draft promise. If that happens, however remote the chance you seem to believe, I'll be providing the popcorn to the forum that day so that we may all enjoy the roast...
If i don’t lose some weight soon i may have to bite the bullet and go 71 Belton
I haven't bought a replica jersey (I now only get game issued and game used jerseys) since the Reebok days. I too have been considering getting a current generation player.
Pretty much done with my eval on this class and will write something up soon. Overall its a fine class. I just find it interesting that this was considered one of the worst WR classes in quite some time by almost all experts and we came away with 2 in the top 3 rounds. Then it was considered to be very strong at RB, TE, OL, Edge, DT, and CB and for the most part avoided all those position until day 3 if not entirely.
Pretty much done with my eval on this class and will write something up soon. Overall its a fine class. I just find it interesting that this was considered one of the worst WR classes in quite some time by almost all experts and we came away with 2 in the top 3 rounds. Then it was considered to be very strong at RB, TE, OL, Edge, DT, and CB and for the most part avoided all those position until day 3 if not entirely.
I'd be interested in seeing a deeper dive into all of the times there's been a consensus that a position group is weak in the draft and then compare that with production 3 years after the draft.
It's funny. I was shocked there wasn't a larger investment in an actual DT-type body. Now, reading up and letting everything set in, with the two Georgia boys and feeling not so bad about it. I still think we need an actual star up front eventually, but for now, if they can get snaps out of either one of these guys, I'd consider that a win.
Pretty much done with my eval on this class and will write something up soon. Overall its a fine class. I just find it interesting that this was considered one of the worst WR classes in quite some time by almost all experts and we came away with 2 in the top 3 rounds. Then it was considered to be very strong at RB, TE, OL, Edge, DT, and CB and for the most part avoided all those position until day 3 if not entirely.
Last year was a bad ILB class with none going round 1 and yet we may have drafted the best ILB in my lifetime.
2020 was supposed to be the best and deepest WR class and 6 went in the first round. 2 of the 6 are no longer in the league or barely in the league. One took 5 years to earn his draft stock and the other three turned out pretty darned good.
Totally random, but I'm really starting to dislike Christian Watson's dad.
Yeah, I unfollowed him on X months ago because he's got a ton of pro-son bias, which is understandable, but he's also an arrogant ass to anybody who questions his conclusions or opinions. He'll go attack mode in a heartbeat over the smallest things, too.
Yeah. It's a good thing that nobody in this forum acts like that.
;-)
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We'll pay either Tom or Walker. Tom is only a RT because that's the spot that opened up first. If we pay Tom and not Walker (as we should, since Tom is the better player), we might even move him back to the left side where he played in college and where his skillset makes sense. But that's speculation and wishcasting. I have thought he belonged there from the start.
Belton is RT insurance, but not "Zach Tom" insurance. Unless the team is just truly committed to being bigger across the board in which case they keep Walker; but that would surprise me.
I still wouldn't rule out a move to center for Tom. No guarantee Elgton's back after this season or 2026.
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I have said it once. I have said it again. I will say it 1,000 times.
Moving your best OL to the least valuable OL position makes the least sense. That just doesn't track. Why would they take a high level OT and play him at a position that gets paid half as much and gets cast aside in free agency routinely and gets drafted much later consistently. It's the worst idea I've ever heard all stemming from one press conference when the GM said he could be a pro bowl C three years ago.
But you haven't said it a million times. ;-)
Seriously, sometimes they talk about doing whatever it takes to get the "best 5" on the field. If that takes getting a guy like Jenk at C...
Come on down and try some of our delicious green chili! Best in the world!
Last year was a bad S class but we came away with nice additions there.
Sometimes a weak class means you get better value while other teams focus on the positions of perceived strength.
I was going to mention safety but figured it's too early and we haven't seen enough there yet. I'm more bullish on Cooper than I am on Williams let's just say that.
I don’t think those S or ILB classes were bad. It’s just a devalued position group. LB is a position you can get away with not investing much in with the devalued run game. Safety is so far away from the start of a play I think they’ve devalued because a lot of plays they have no impact at all. Comparatively you have the DL that is affected every single play and that is where the most value is.
I don’t think those S or ILB classes were bad. It’s just a devalued position group. LB is a position you can get away with not investing much in with the devalued run game. Safety is so far away from the start of a play I think they’ve devalued because a lot of plays they have no impact at all. Comparatively you have the DL that is affected every single play and that is where the most value is.
I think we have been seeing offensive evolution, less big chunk plays and more intermediate and small ball, we see more quarters and half zones, both safety's up, and that's do to more run snaps and intermediate passing, so that means more reliance on ILB and safety, I think that's reflected with positional contract demands.
the more I read about players we drafted the more excited I get, that DT brinson in the 6th sounds like a draft day steal, same with Sorrell in the 4th
